Here is a neat picture of John's 38 and my dad's 39 back when it was fresh This bike had nos tires, I only rode it a little bit, they were very rough, the bike bounced up and down like a gravel truck. This is a picture of us in front of the Warner Fire Department. We are both volunteers. This is an all white 38 that was in an old enthusiast, I have always wanted to do an all white pre war bike. Hopefully someday a customer's interest in an all white 38 will align with mine. hint hint.